This video is from 2019, when Pete Buttigieg (now U.S. Secretary of Transportion) was campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination, and appeared on a Fox show hosted by Chris Wallace. Who do you think won this argument, Buttigieg, or his Fox-host critics? Me, I don’t think we’ve seen or heard the last of Buttigieg in national politics; he’s on the way up, by sheer force of intellect and personality. The Fox hosts? Oh, they’ll stick around; they’ll have an audience. Meh.