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Why isn’t vagrancy a crime?

Edwin Abbott had the answers.

I really do not understand this.  If you are mentally ill and a harm to yourself or others, the government can and does force you to get help and … hopefully .. provides the needed facility .. a hospital.

How is vagrancy any different?

Estimates I have read run from 1/3 to 1/2 of all the homeless are mentally ill. Add in the addicts and the number is much more.  What bizarre reasoning that says we should allow these sick people to live in tents under the freeway or use the public streets as toilets?

Then there are the kids!  You know OUR future?  The kids the Seattle Public Schools sees as their job #1 are the homeless kids.  How can anyone say that no harm comes from  housing a kid in a drug infested urban campground or expecting them to study the lights of Mom’s 87 Datsun?

Why not just make, enforce and fund vagrancy laws?


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  1. Steve Jr. #
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    That vintage Datsun .. it’s fake. ask. ME how i know?

    Ass for the “holess kids’., why can not we just give them a blow hole??!

  2. Mark Adans #
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    When vagrancy is a crime and it’s enforced the enforcement mostly ends up moving the vagrants to other communities. Even when private businesses and residences deal with vagrants most of the effort is getting the vagrants off the property, Generally they do not give the vagrants hotel rooms with meals, but a nice police officer hands the vagrant some legal papers or tells them to skedaddle or the vagrant is arrested. None of which fixes any real problems, but ensures there is no vagrancy in someone’s back yard.

  3. Roger Rabbit #
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    The first challenge is to define “vagrancy.” The second is to craft a law that doesn’t violate the Constitution. In general, “status crimes” are unconstitutional; that is, you can’t make it a crime to be poor, homeless, or a prostitute. (You can make it illegal to engage in prostitution acts, but not to simply be a prostitute.) Third, the law must not be overbroad, and must target specific behavior the government is allowed to prohibit or regulate. For example, historically, vagrancy laws sometimes were used to prosecute protesters exercising their free speech rights, and that’s not permissible. Fourth, we should be very wary of attempts to enact vagrancy laws, because they’re ripe for abuse and historically have been used to discriminate against blacks and given police a tool with which to persecute unpopular groups (e.g., hippies). In general, vagrancy laws have a well-deserved bad reputation, are often unconstitutional, and are a poor solution to social problems. Are you really going to throw someone in jail for taking a leak under a bridge when he has nowhere else to go? And keep him in jail for as long as he has a need to urinate? (After all, if you release him, he’s going to piss in public again.) Why not provide public toilets instead?